Journals of the Senate
52 Elizabeth II, A.D. 2003, Canada
Journals of the Senate
2nd Session, 37th Parliament
Issue 51
Thursday, May 1, 2003
1:30 p.m.
The Honourable Daniel Hays, Speaker
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Bacon, Baker, Banks, Beaudoin, Biron, Bryden, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Chaput, Christensen, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, Day, Doody, Eyton, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Finnerty, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Jaffer, Joyal, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lapointe, LeBreton, Léger, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Merchant, Milne, Moore, Morin, Nolin, Oliver, Pépin, Phalen, Poulin (Charette), Prud'homme, Ringuette, Rivest, Robertson, Robichaud, Rompkey, Rossiter, Sibbeston, Sparrow, St. Germain, Stratton, Tkachuk, Watt, Wiebe
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, *Austin, Bacon, Baker, Banks, Beaudoin, Biron, *Bolduc, Bryden, *Carney, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Chaput, Christensen, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, Day, *De Bané, *Di Nino, Doody, Eyton, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Finnerty, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, *Grafstein, *Graham, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Jaffer, Joyal, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lapointe, LeBreton, Léger, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Merchant, Milne, Moore, Morin, Nolin, Oliver, *Pearson, Pépin, Phalen, Poulin (Charette), Prud'homme, Ringuette, Rivest, Robertson, Robichaud, Rompkey, Rossiter, *Setlakwe, Sibbeston, Sparrow, St. Germain, *Stollery, Stratton, Tkachuk, Watt, Wiebe
PRAYERS
SENATORS' STATEMENTS
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
ANSWERS TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS
Pursuant to Rule 25(2), the Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., tabled the following:
Replies to Questions No. 14 to 16, dated February 4, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—Department of Western Economic Diversification.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-376S.
Replies to Questions No. 41 to 43, dated February 11, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—Department of Canadian Heritage.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-377S.
Reply to Question No. 50, dated February 25, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency.—Sessional Paper No. 2/ 37-367S.
Replies to Questions No. 56 to 58, dated February 25, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act— Communication Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 2/ 37-378S.
Replies to Questions No. 59 and 60, dated February 25, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-379S.
Replies to Questions No. 62 to 64, dated February 25, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—National Parole Board.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37- 380S.
Replies to Questions No. 67 to 69, dated February 25, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—Department of the Solicitor General of Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-381S.
Replies to Questions No. 73 to 75, dated February 25, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—Department of Fisheries and Oceans.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-382S.
Replies to Questions No. 81 to 83, dated February 25, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act —Correctional Service of Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-383S.
Replies to Questions No. 90 and 91, dated February 25, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—Parks Canada Agency.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37- 384S.
Replies to Questions No. 92 to 94, dated February 25, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—Department of Citizenship and Immigration.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-385S.
Replies to Questions No. 98 to 100, dated March 18, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—Royal Canadian Mounted Police.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-386S.
Reply to Question No. 102, dated March 18, 2003, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act—National Battlefields Commission.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37- 387S.
________________________________________________________
With leave,
The Senate reverted to Presentation of Reports From Standing or Special Committees.
The Honourable Senator Banks, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources, presented its Seventh Report (Bill C-2, An Act to establish a process for assessing the environmental and socio-economic effects of certain activities in Yukon) without amendment.
The Honourable Senator Christensen moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Léger, that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a third reading at the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
ORDERS OF THE DAY
GOVERNMENT BUSINESS
Bills
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Reports of Committees
Resuming debate on the consideration of the Eighth Report (Interim) of the Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament entitled: Government Ethics Initiative, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on April 10, 2003.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Andreychuk moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cochrane, that further debate on the consideration of the Report be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
OTHER BUSINESS
Senate Public Bills
Orders No. 1 to 10 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Commons Public Bills
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Reports of Committees
Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Consideration of the Ninth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence (budget—study on the need for a national security policy for Canada), presented in the Senate on April 29, 2003.
The Honourable Senator Kenny moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool, that the Report be adopted.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Ordered, That Orders No. 3 and 4 be again called.
Consideration of the Tenth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce (budget—release of additional funds (study on the domestic and international financial system)), presented in the Senate on April 29, 2003.
The Honourable Senator Moore moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool, that the Report be adopted.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Consideration of the Eleventh Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce (budget—study on bankruptcy and insolvency), presented in the Senate on April 29, 2003.
The Honourable Senator Moore moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool, that the Report be adopted.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Consideration of the Second Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Official Languages (budget—study on the operation of the Official Languages Act), presented in the Senate on April 29, 2003.
The Honourable Senator Losier-Cool moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kenny, that the Report be adopted.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Gauthier moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fraser, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was negatived on division.
The question then being put on the motion of the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kenny, for the adoption of the Second Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Official Languages, it was adopted.
Order No. 7 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Consideration of the Tenth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence (budget—study on the health care of veterans), presented in the Senate on April 29, 2003.
The Honourable Senator Day for the Honourable Senator Meighen moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kenny, that the Report be adopted.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Consideration of the Third Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry (budget—study on the impact of climate change on agriculture and forestry), presented in the Senate on April 29, 2003.
The Honourable Senator Oliver moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Keon, that the Report be adopted.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Consideration of the Fourth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry (budget—study on issues related to agricultural, agri-food and forest products), presented in the Senate on April 29, 2003.
The Honourable Senator Oliver moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Keon, that the Report be adopted.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 11 to 14 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the consideration of the Third Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Fisheries and Oceans (study on matters relating to straddling stocks and to fish habitat) presented in the Senate on March 27, 2003.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., that further debate on the consideration of the Report be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 16 to 21 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Other
Orders No. 13 (inquiry) and 108 (motion) were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Gauthier calling the attention of the Senate to the difficulties faced by the deaf and hearing impaired in availing themselves impartially and in full equality of the information and safety procedures available to Canadians at airports, on aircraft, in ships and on all forms of public transport.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 90, 86, 5 (motions), 15, 8, 20 (inquiries), 104 (motion), 9, 17 (inquiries), 4 (motion), 2, 14 (inquiries), 76, 66 (motions), 16, 6 and 7 (inquiries) were called and postponed until the next sitting.
MOTIONS
The Honourable Senator Andreychuk moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Stratton:
That this House calls upon the Government of Canada:
(a) to recognize the Ukrainian Famine/Genocide of 1932-33 and to condemn any attempt to deny or distort this historical truth as being anything less than a genocide;
(b) to designate the fourth Saturday in November of every year throughout Canada as a day of remembrance of the more than seven million Ukrainians who fell victim to the Ukrainian Famine/Genocide 1932-33; and
(c) to call on all Canadians, particularly historians, educators and parliamentarians, to include the true facts of the Ukrainian Famine/Genocide of 1932-33 in the records of Canada and in future educational material.
GIVEN THAT the Genocide of Ukrainians (now commonly referred to as the Ukrainian Famine/Genocide of 1932-33 and referred to as such in this Motion) engineered and executed by the Soviet regime under Stalin to destroy all opposition to its imperialist policies, caused the deaths of over seven million Ukrainians in 1932 and 1933;
THAT on November 26, 1998, the President of Ukraine issued a Presidential Decree establishing that the fourth Saturday in November be a National Day of Remembrance for the victims of this mass atrocity;
THAT the fourth Saturday in November has been recognized by Ukrainian communities throughout the world as a day to remember the victims of the Ukrainian Famine/Genocide of 1932-33 and to promote the fundamental freedoms of a democratic society;
THAT it is recognized that information about the Ukrainian Famine/Genocide of 1932-33 was suppressed, distorted, or wiped out by Soviet authorities;
THAT it is only now that some proper and accurate information is emerging from the former Soviet Union about the Ukrainian Famine/Genocide of 1932-33;
THAT many survivors of the Ukrainian Famine/Genocide of 1932-33 have immigrated to Canada and contributed to its positive development;
THAT Canada condemns all war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocides;
AND THAT Canadians cherish and defend human rights, and value the diversity and multicultural nature of Canadian society.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Andreychuk moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Stratton, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Gauthier moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fraser:
That the Senate approve the radio and television broadcasting of its proceedings and those of its committees, with closed-captioning in real time, on principles analogous to those regulating the publication of the official record of its deliberations; and
That a special committee, composed of five Senators, be appointed to oversee the implementation of this resolution.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Gauthier moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fraser, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
________________________________________________________
With leave,
The Senate reverted to Government Notices of Motions.
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator: Rompkey, P.C.
That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday next, May 6, 2003, at 2:00 p.m.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):
Report of the Royal Canadian Mint, together with the Auditor General's report, for the year 2002, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-370.
Employment Insurance Monitoring and Assessment Report for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Employment Insurance Act, S.C. 1996, c. 23, sbs. 3(3).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-371.
Report of the Chicken Farmers of Canada, together with the Auditor's Report, for the year ended December 31, 2002, pursuant to the Farm Products Marketing Agencies Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-4, s. 30.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37- 372.
Report of the Canadian Egg Marketing Agency, together with the Auditor's Report, for the year ended December 31, 2002, pursuant to the Farm Products Marketing Agencies Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-4, s. 30.—Sessional Paper No. 2/ 37-373.
Report of the Canadian Turkey Marketing Agency, together with the Auditor's Report, for the year ended December 31, 2002, pursuant to the Farm Products Marketing Agencies Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-4, s. 30.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-374.
Report of the Canadian Broiler Hatching Egg Marketing Agency, together with the Auditor's Report, for the year ended December 31, 2002, pursuant to the Farm Products Marketing Agencies Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-4, s. 30.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-375.
ADJOURNMENT
The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C.:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 5:45 p.m. the Senate was continued until Tuesday, May 6, 2003, at 2:00 p.m.)
________________________________________________________
Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)
Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce
The name of the Honourable Senator Hubley substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Setlakwe (April 30).
Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology
The name of the Honourable Senator Pépin substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Callbeck (April 30).
Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry
The name of the Honourable Senator LaPierre substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Ferretti Barth (April 30).
Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs
The names of the Honourable Senators Buchanan and Corbin substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Stratton and Smith (May 1).